dewsy wrote:.. did anyone have a word with this kitesurfer about being "safe" when flying a kite on the beach with beach goers downwind?
It's ok, he is on a BRO board.....
dewsy wrote: I also do not wish to hijack this thread but since we were talking about good decisions..
dewsy wrote:since we were discussing a "safety" issue such as a board leash.. did anyone have a word with this kitesurfer about being "safe" when flying a kite on the beach with beach goers downwind? I was concerned and just thought i might bring it up.. all I know, is from what I hear about the Sheriff, he'd have lost his mind if he were to have seen something like this.. I also do not wish to hijack this thread but since we were talking about good decisions..
tog0713 wrote:Ahhh the leash controversy. Knew my last post would stir it up. For all those experts on the forum I have kited from the beginning starting back in Kailua Bay when the Naish guys were flying two line kites and only a couple of guys were kiting in Corpus. I can body drag as well as anyone, but it takes time and energy. Plus you can lose a board in big waves. I prefer to use my energy to ride and not swim after a board. Have never felt in over a decade of kiting that a board leash with a reel that I have come remotely close to endangering myself. In that time have had the spring on one leash break. This I think my years of kiting represents a pretty broad body of experience. And so I will continue to use a board leash to save energy in demanding conditions and increase the joy of the kiting experience saving my energy for riding and not swimming...
West wrote:a half-mile away.....just joking, they were a bit further than they appear, but they were too close.
West wrote:The wind was steady as a fan and stuck on 18, and I had been doing a few tacks and coming to shore to lay on the sand in between tacks. I had talked to the two in the pic several times during this stretch. They were very interested in kiting, and were hanging around picking up rocks and checking the scene.
West wrote:Jens caught a pic at the end of the sesh where I popped up on shore and landed on my butt.
West wrote:I had re-directed the kite towards the water as I landed, and was not concerned of it's falling since the wind was so steady.
West wrote:Although it is possible that a line might have snapped at that very instant, it is highly unlikely.
West wrote:That being said, I can see how it can be viewed as an unsafe practice.
West wrote:The last thing I want to do is to promote unsafe kiting behavior, and I appreciate the concern that Dewsy and others have with the pic. Regardless of the "mellow" situation and my kiting skills, I should not have been that close to them while upwind; and I acknowledge that my nonchalance may have led to a potential mishap.
West wrote:I am "fair game" when it comes to peer criticism, and will strive to always keep others out of harms' way while kiting. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I will not be defiant, too proud, arrogant, or ignorant to recognize that I am simply one in a family of Chicago-area kiters, and that my actions have repurcussions for all.
West wrote:In my opinion the forum is here to bring us all together, to help educate us and to deepen the bond that exists between us. Learning from one another, and respecting the obligation we have to each other is the foundation that will keep us afloat. SAFETY FIRST!!!!
dewsy wrote:roberto, it's not that they can't body drag.. in this situation and on this day, he chose not to worry about doing it.. indeed "what is the big deal".. the real problem here is people going through the board with a finetooth comb calling people out who are obviously capable.. he's not a noob asking whether or not he should use a leash, in that case the "crew" can all chime in, and with good reason, but if someone wants to wear a leash to save some hassle, its my opinion it should be up to them and they shouldn't have to hear about it..
...ad nauseum4w7s wrote:There is no law that you cannot use a board leash...
and there is no law that says you must have common sense either.
dewsy wrote:Just like my comment about the kiteboarder (who is apparently west) hovering just over the beach at the waters edge with an old lady and a kid yards downwind.. with west at the helm of that kite they are in no danger but the pic got posted for all (including noobs) to see and imitate and none of those most concerned with safety said a thing.. as you can see, when I posted my concerns, jens told me to "blow it out my ass" and that there weren't enough people to actually make it dangerous, bob (an instructor) said i should "look at the bigger picture" rorke said there were a bunch of kiters "ready to catch".. the only person who took accountability for the pic was west.. we all know that west would never let the kite fall on those people, but noobs don't when they go to the pics page to see what kind of cool stuff you can do while kiteboarding.. guys, i know you're all good friends but if we're all so concerned with bettering safety in the sport and how we project ourselves to noobs why the double standard?
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