I want to begin with saying I personally know you Rorke and I would say this to your face any day. This post of yours is a childish way of approaching things from your side. Its obvious who you were talking about so be a man and approach me and Henry and we talk it over like a couple of adults and not just post on a public forum about what your opinion is. Honestly, I don't give two shit about what you think anymore and here is why.
What opinions do you guys have on kite flippers? (Meaning snatching good gear deals, then reselling the gear immediately to someone who is either too slow or doesn't know enough about where/how to find used gear.
Kiteboarding is a very expensive sport which is very difficult to afford even for people with full time jobs. I'm a college kid that has tuition bills every month on top of car payments/gas/insurance/books. It's very difficult to get decent kiting gear with those kinds of expenses. This is why I "flip" kites. Its not a shameful way of making money. Take a look outside your narrow point of view and see that this is the way the world works. Even kite shops that are "respectable" get gear for much less then what they resell it for. Does this make them "shifty little shits" or "kite flippers"? It's not like I'm listing my gear for crazy high prices. All the kites that I sell are in perfect working shape that have lots of life left in them. Take a look at the kites which I have posted in the second hand section. They are all very reasonably priced and I would even say that they are cheaper then most of same model kites out there. So price wise, I'm not ripping anyone off when I sell kites at market value. I'm not ripping the person off that sold me the gear either because they set the price. Also I do my very best to satisfy all people that buy kites from me. If there is a problem, I always go out of my way to try make everyone happy. Many people are happy customers of mine, who would buy gear from me any day. So your argument here is very flawed.
What irritates me the most is when packages get split up AND upcharged.
A common move by these shifty little shits is to take an '09 kite complete and mix it with an '07 kite complete. So people buy an '09 kite with an '07 bar or vice versa.
Here, you are being a complete ignorant prick. The reason why sometimes I sell kites with older or newer bars is because not all kites come complete when they are sold to me. Complete packages are always worth more so I mix and match the kites and bars that I have which work together. I always include detailed pictures of my kites and bars so the buyer knows exactly what they are getting. Its a free market out there so you have to be a big boy and do your own research on what gear to buy. So I don't see any shiftiness about what I do.
I think it is a pretty lowly and fairly shameful way to make a buck.
This comment is just rude and uncalled for. This is your narrow minded view so if you don't plan on broadening your view, keep your big mouth shut.
How are kite flippers helpful in our community?
Yes, here are a couple of reasons:
1. There is a bigger market of used gear locally which means kiters can come and actually check out the gear before they buy it, to make them more comfortable with their decision.
2. There is more control over kiters that are starting out because if a kiter is a beginner, I take the time to explain to them that they should take lessons with Bob or Henry. If they have questions I take the time to completely answer all the questions even if it means setting up the kite completely and explaining every single detail to them. Its a lot better then letting people buy old crappy kites off ebay and try to learn on their own.
3. Believe it or not, me flipping kites actually benefits you because your kites don't depreciate in value as fast. It makes it so that kites hold their value better because if one person was selling a 2011 Cabrinha for $300 and another guy had the same kite but was trying to get $800, it would automatically hurt the value of the guy that's trying to get more for his kite.
Do they have any value?
1. Well, I'm what you call a "kite flipper" and I know that if I wasn't part of the kiting community more then couple of kiters would have either
A. Lost their kite
B. Lost their board
C. Lost their life
Kiteboarding is my life pretty much, it's what I live to do so I greatly value the sport of kiteboarding and the people that partake in it. I know many can back me up when I say this, I would always put my ass on the line for a fellow kiteboarder, even if it meant I had to risk my gear or my life. So you implying that I have no value is extremely rude and offensive.Got something to say give me a call like an adult and we can talk 847-208-2759.
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