Bolt wrote:This lady at Floras lake this summer broke her dynabar mid flight then landed hard and blew out her knee, the worst injury all summer at the lake. IMO (sorry Roberto) the Dynabar seems like a really expensive & over engineered spreader bar with a bunch of moving parts. If you like the slide action for riding toe side in the waves and snowkiting with skis on, Just tie a piece of strong rope (I used and old chicken loop rope) from one end of your spreader bar to the other, then pop your safety open on your chicken loop, wrap it around the rope, click your safety back in and your good. Cheap and easy, you can decide to ride w/ or w/o it depending on what you want for that session. Makes all the difference for riding back side in the waves!
Andy, Do you know which version of bar it was? I'd be willing to bet it was a V5. Maybe you can find out and verify so the facts are straight. (Or perhaps provide more spcifics on what actually broke...even a photo would be great!)
I happen to think the Dynabar is a good poduct so I feel I should say a few things to represent that sentiment. I began using the Dynabar as a "test rider" 3+ years ago and put it thru some heavy paces before I felt sure I wanted to endorse it, ride with it, sell it, teach with it. I've tested all the versions as they were released and when I got the V5 I was immediately suggesting that the company revise the construction - whihch they did. Jay Factory was trying to simplify the fabricaton process and the V5 did not last long in production. I declined to sell the V5 for this reason and have advised people against it whenever it comes up. I understand there are quite a few V5's remaining on stockists shelves - so caveat emptor to consumers. Personally I feel these stockists should pull the V5 product - PERIOD. I tested a V5 to the point of failure as pictured below, but that did not seem like a reason to give up or condemn a good concept.
The next version was the V6 which is bombproof, as is the V3. I even still have a V1 that I've used for 3 years and 100% confidence in. I have not had one customer return/failure on the V3 or the V6 and some of my customers weigh over 250 lbs. In any case, I feel the design of the V3 and V6 are very strong and (for me) completely reliable as opposed to most other fixed hook bars out there (of which I have broken many at the hook/bar weld, the hook itself, or the tubular bar as well). It's not good to hear that someone injured themself when a bar broke, but I wonder if that has more to do with other factors? While we all like to rely on our gear we still need to be prepared for those "what if" situations - a broken line, broken bar, jammed pulley, blown strap...all of which could lead to injury, or at least a moment of surprise, especially if it happens in a sketchy spot, hairy conditions, or shallow water or far off-shore..
I think that saying that the Dynabar is overengineered and overpriced is a bit of an exageration for a high quality bar that comes with a pad for $120. And just to be clear about this - the only "moving part" is the hook sliding on the bar (or rope) if you wish, which amounts to the same amount of hardware that acts as halyards for sails. The plastic roller bearing is intended to be "sacrificial" and if you don't replace that when it wears thru than YES you will start damaging the shackle pin - which could result in a failure. But that (plastic roller) is a 25 ccent part that takes about 30 seconds to replace with a standard screwdriver, so IMO no big deal. I would think you could literally perform any of this blindfolded. I certainly hope even the most unmechanically inclined people can handle all those "moving parts".
Yes, the use of a rope also works great with the Dyabar as well and they have specific accomodations for that. The "rope mode" has a slightly different feel from the FreeRide bar and that has a different feel from the FreeWave bar...so JayFactory offers the different "flavors" in an effort to satisfy all riders. There are some advantages and disadvantages to the "rope mode"...primarily if you want to ride unhooked, the rope mode is not that practical.
this is a pic of the original version to which I adapted a rope - and had the option of either a metal slide or a rope slide. The same thing you can do with the newer versions.
As you say, the rotating hook is a nice feature for wave riding/toe-side riding. I'm certinly not saying that 100% of riders will like it, but I cannot tell you how many times people have said that they wish they had gotten one sooner and that they'll never go back to the fixed hook - which is exactly how I feel. So, I guess "beauty" and appraently "function" is in the eye of the beholder.