Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

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Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

Postby adseguy » Fri May 17, 2013 11:02 am

A little sobering moment for us all isn't so bad once in a while. Check your safeties and activate them once in a while.

Stumbled onto this vid somehow:
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Re: Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

Postby Bryce FLK » Fri May 17, 2013 1:52 pm

Thats some scary shit, I was snowkiting in CO once and had my bar inverse like that right before a strong gust came. I was dragged 50+ ft helmet first down the ice. With that kind of loop, your bar is stuck powered up and in one direction... so it begins to "death-spiral". Luckily I got things back straight during the lull afterwards.

I wonder how bad this guy wishes he would have just ejected everything earlier... especially with those rocks. $1000 in gear inst worth bodily damage! Just eject and go find your kite..
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Re: Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

Postby adseguy » Fri May 17, 2013 6:10 pm

Bryce FLK wrote: I wonder how bad this guy wishes he would have just ejected everything earlier... especially with those rocks. $1000 in gear inst worth bodily damage! Just eject and go find your kite..


Yeah, you can see him fiddling with the final leash release at the end. He either hasn't done it, it wasn't working, or a combination....either way, not the best ending for him.
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Re: Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

Postby FSP » Fri May 17, 2013 6:23 pm

when ur all alone and no danger to others and in waves, it can save ur life to not have a lease on given some circumstances. its just luck you dont die when getting your bar inverted like this so always be aware of the limits.
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Re: Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

Postby Northerner » Sat May 18, 2013 8:04 am

Great Find, though very scary.

Basically he had a fully powered kite there with zero de-power of the wrapped bar. Amazing how little say he had on where he was going once the kite looped. As he was walking towards shore he basically got the kite at the edge of the window, which relaunched the kite.
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Re: Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

Postby billg » Sat May 18, 2013 12:44 pm

So how did he invert the line in the first place? I assume he fell into his lines and rolled forward between the outside lines?
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Re: Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

Postby Kevin » Sat May 18, 2013 1:32 pm

That's why you don't kite upwind of jetties. i.e. Waukegan on a North
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Re: Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

Postby skysurfr » Sun May 19, 2013 2:24 pm

Several of the sites used to have kitemare forums. They were full of this kind of stuff. I guess someone thought it was bad for the sport and they took it down.

I think this is a great example of how it can go from bad to worse in a matter of seconds.

I hope this guys is ok and will soon ride another day.

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Re: Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

Postby FSP » Sun May 19, 2013 9:50 pm

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billg wrote:So how did he invert the line in the first place? I assume he fell into his lines and rolled forward between the outside lines?


This happens when you lose tension in the lines due to a lull, downed kite or outrunning the kite and then oversteering so far that one of the ends goes past the center line and can now go under it causing a wrap. While your mind is on the kite you can be radically and unknowingly way oversteering steering the bar especially when new and especially in light winds when the kite is on the water!

Problem is its very foreign and you cant figure it out fast enough. Meanwhile it pulls in such a way that you are taking huge underwater plows. If you have a leash on, you must find it from behind, while being dragged, to make your final ejection. I remember as a newb the kite finally got pummeled by a wave at casino, no less and that gave me time to do the ejections.

Once it happens, you will then always remember to not get crazy with ur bar. Its one of kiteboardings worst kitemares that has no bailout unless the kite becomes stalled, and eventually happens to a lot of people.
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Re: Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

Postby Rorke » Mon May 20, 2013 6:22 am

That will give you nightmares!

Excellent educational post.

Being on shore and near rocks, I would have reached for the ohShit handle, popped my QR, and accepted the 10 minutes of spaghetti cleanup.

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Re: Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

Postby skysurfr » Mon May 20, 2013 9:16 pm

Here's a theoretical question....

What would you have done if you were on the beach watching....in your wetsuit.

I was watching a similar situation once... with a group of kiteboarders at water edge and nobody moved to help the guy.

I ran out of the bar into the water with my suit half on, rescued the kite and relaunched the guy upwind. The water was like 50f.

Im not sure why all these people watching did nothing. They all knew the kiteboarder and were standing there just watching.

????

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Re: Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

Postby adseguy » Mon May 20, 2013 9:26 pm

Of course everyone answers that they would do something, but 60 minutes did an episode on the reality of the situation and most freeze in fear or awe instead of react. It's more of an instinct thing. I'm glad you have it.
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Re: Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

Postby IVO » Mon May 20, 2013 9:56 pm

Bryce FLK wrote:
I wonder how bad this guy wishes he would have just ejected everything earlier... especially with those rocks. $1000 in gear inst worth bodily damage! Just eject and go find your kite..


Usually that's the case for the most,riders greatly underestimate situation and are afraid of losing their precious kites...seen that hundred times,Keegs is getting famous for this.

you always could buy new gear,hard to get new pair of lungs without water on the spot :!:
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Re: Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

Postby Eric A. » Thu May 23, 2013 11:08 am

Now a days I think most all kiters are lulled into complacency. The sport has been around for 10 or so years now and most riders have their stuff dialed in now.......gear is much safer too....which has led to the overall complacent attitude regarding safety.....most really don't care until its too late.

Pretty much noneone in south haven practices kite safety....we ALL launch directly,upwind of the entire south beach population and on the north side too. It's the whole complacency thing.....we've got this..nothing is going to happen bro.
One of the spots I ride. Muskegon. it seems to be fully encouraged to ride with in the break wall. Everyone does it there...instructors, locals, newbies....everyone. Even seasoned instructors. Crazy right? But true. The kite school is right there and when the lesson is done everyone heads to the break wall. I counted 8 kites all tucked in there riding the butter one day. Nobody was in the open water....all were inside the channel arms busting slim chances etc.....I predict some day soon somebody's ticket is going to get punched over there. It's just crazy that the city and kite school just turn a blind eye to it. but oh we'll....no biggie. Hasn't been an issue yet. Well get,to it after somebody gets hurt.

Now let's all slam some more beers and go out riding! It's blowing!
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Re: Close Call on the rocks of Lake Superior

Postby skysurfr » Thu May 23, 2013 1:03 pm

Complacency.

You nailed it.

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